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		<title>Jesse Junior&#8217;s Powerpoint Presentation</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are the powerpoint notes for Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.&#8217;s August 18, 2009 town hall meeting (click to enlarge).
Further information provided by the representative&#8217;s office includes a link to the White House &#8220;reality check&#8221; page that addresses arguments against the bill and a link to the House Ways and Means Committee. The committee also has [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=camelsnose.wordpress.com&blog=515705&post=4949&subd=camelsnose&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Here are the powerpoint notes for Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.&#8217;s August 18, 2009 town hall meeting (click to enlarge).</p>

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<p>Further information provided by the representative&#8217;s office includes a link to the <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/realitycheck/" target="_blank">White House &#8220;reality check&#8221; page</a> that addresses arguments against the bill and a link to the<a href="http://waysandmeans.house.gov/" target="_blank"> House Ways and Means Committee</a>. The committee also has on its pages <a href="http://waysandmeans.house.gov/MoreInfo.asp?section=52" target="_blank">a more detailed description</a> (that is more interesting, for me at least) of the three versions of the bill that were passed out of the three committees (Energy and Commerce, Education and Labor, Ways and Means) that now have to be reconciled, as well as other more technical information about revenue provisions and summary documents.</p>
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		<title>Jesse Jackson Junior&#8217;s Town Hall Meeting on HR 3200 August 18, 2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congress is out of session, legislators have returned to their districts, and all over the country town hall meetings on health care bill HR 3200 have been disrupted by demonstrations.  Not here.  This is the  town hall meeting of Jesse Jackson Junior, held August 18, 2009 in Chicago at the Sheldon Heights Church of Christ [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=camelsnose.wordpress.com&blog=515705&post=4938&subd=camelsnose&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://camelsnose.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/illinois-2nd-district.png"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-4943" title="Illinois 2nd District" src="http://camelsnose.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/illinois-2nd-district.png?w=194&#038;h=201" alt="Illinois 2nd District" width="194" height="201" /></a>Congress is out of session, legislators have returned to their districts, and all over the country town hall meetings on health care bill <a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3200:" target="_blank">HR 3200</a> have been disrupted by demonstrations.  Not here.  This is the  town hall meeting of Jesse Jackson Junior, held August 18, 2009 in Chicago at the Sheldon Heights Church of Christ at 11249 S. Halsted. The meeting was  quite sedate, at least by Chicago standards, and the participants demonstrated huge support for what is being called The Public Option.</p>
<p>Notes:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">For information on the canned presentation, the powerpoint is supposed to be on<a href="http://www.jackson.house.gov/" target="_blank"> J3&#8217;s official website</a>, but so far it hasn&#8217;t been posted. I have a hard copy; if anyone really want to see it, leave a comment and I will post it. (Note: I have now posted it <a href="http://camelsnose.wordpress.com/2009/08/20/jesse-juniors-powerpoint-presentation/" target="_blank">here</a>.)</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Crappy terminology:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">I have never seen an issue discussed in terms that are so hard to understand.  There&#8217;s &#8220;single payer&#8221;, &#8220;the public option&#8221;, and then there&#8217;s the poll (with no comments possible) on the representative&#8217;s website &#8220;Should health care reform legislation include a federal government-run insurance coverage option?&#8221;  Say, what?  Option??  Shouldn&#8217;t it be mandatory, with everyone included? Like the Rev. Jackson said, &#8220;Everybody in and nobody out.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">For information on &#8220;single payer&#8221; try <a href="http://www.pnhp.org/" target="_blank">Physicians for a National Health Care Program</a>.  Warning: no two people who have looked at this website can agree on what &#8220;single payer&#8221; is.  What it <em>isn&#8217;t</em> is getting rid of all insurance companies and having the government pay all health insurance claims.  I think.  Or is it?</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Some people had a sign &#8220;Medicare for All&#8221;. People do understand that slogan and respect that system (unlike Medicaid), but the slogan doesn&#8217;t seem to be getting much play.</p>
<p>The videos, with times:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfbg-7I5Ucg" target="_blank">Video 1 </a> (0:40):  Outside the church, the two demonstrators with pictures of Obama with the Hitler mustache are LaRouchies.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg8_lqJmIYY" target="_blank">Video 2</a> (1:57):  A short speech, sorry, I didn&#8217;t catch who is speaking, but I pan the crowd to give an idea of what it looked like.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAJnhdOcn9Q" target="_blank">Video 3</a> (0:20):  Rev. Jesse Jackson, the father of Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., is introduced and takes the stage.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdl13iZf-Tw" target="_blank">Video 4</a> (2:00):  Rev. Jackson speaks,</p>
<p>&#8220;Nobody in, nobody out.&#8221;<br />
Insurance and pharmaceutical companies: &#8220;They must not take up all our space at the table.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;If you like what you got, keep it&#8230;expansion.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;The working poor &#8212; don&#8217;t have, the very poor &#8212; don&#8217;t have, our children &#8212; don&#8217;t have.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;We all should be in and none of us should be out.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Everybody in and nobody out.&#8221;<br />
&#8230;as I cut off the camera, the son begins to walks across the stage and the camera starts it&#8217;s stopping sequence.  After the camera cuts, they embrace.</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://camelsnose.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/jesse-jackson-juniors-town-hall-meeting-on-hr-3200-august-18-2009/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/Mdl13iZf-Tw/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0HIKETuosw" target="_blank">Video 5</a> (7:05):  The congressman answers 2 questions from the crowd (the questioner gets a mic at 1:35) about  1)whether preventative medicine is included 2) whether the plan is the same health care that members of congress receive.</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://camelsnose.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/jesse-jackson-juniors-town-hall-meeting-on-hr-3200-august-18-2009/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/XYAhAFWawMo/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYAhAFWawMo" target="_blank">Video 6 </a> (3:53):  Answering a question about coops and about the Public Option.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnrmRyYxbYk" target="_blank">Video 7 </a> (1:24): Answering a question from someone representing a diabetes group about preexisting conditions. (Techie note: The focus is bad here.  It is the notorious problem some Canon cameras have with the lens that the manufacturer has been slow to recognize.  This camera is a Canon Powershot A560 that I paid about $125 for.  It did the same thing a year ago.  Here I just power cycle the camera, and it seems to be okay again.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_dU_kE82SI" target="_blank">Video 8</a> (2:56): Answer to a question about whether the congressman would support the bill without the Public Option portion.  The congressman answers 1) &#8220;should health care be a commodity?&#8221; and the &#8220;right&#8221; to health care as opposed to the &#8220;right&#8221; to shoot and 2) the &#8220;Tenth Amendment Argument&#8221; that conservatives use against bills for the general welfare.</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://camelsnose.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/jesse-jackson-juniors-town-hall-meeting-on-hr-3200-august-18-2009/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/j_dU_kE82SI/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdnMimwWTDY" target="_blank">Video 9</a> (0:29): At this point the only remaining questions are about the Public Option, so the congressman asks for applause directed at the cameras to indicate support for the Public Option.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTDun3S5k2Y" target="_blank">Video 10</a> (0:58): outside the church after the meeting.  The Larouchies picture of Obama-with-Hitler-mustache is no longer visible as a large handwritten banner supporting the Public Option is unfurled in front of it. In the parking lot, Rev. Jackson gives an interview.  In the sanctuary, the congressman is now on the Larry King show being broadcast live from another city.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtXjls5L6QE" target="_blank">Video 11</a> (0:20): A demonstrator with a &#8220;Jesus hearts public option&#8221; sign.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is the link to the Obama speech delivered at Cairo University June 4, 2009 (official White House transcript). Here is a link to the YouTube version (55 minutes).
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1:10 P.M. (Local)
PRESIDENT OBAMA:  Thank you very much.  Good afternoon.  I am honored to be in the timeless city of Cairo, and to be hosted by [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=camelsnose.wordpress.com&blog=515705&post=4359&subd=camelsnose&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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1:10 P.M. (Local)</p>
<p>PRESIDENT OBAMA:  Thank you very much.  Good afternoon.  I am honored to be in the timeless city of Cairo, and to be hosted by two remarkable institutions.  For over a thousand years, Al-Azhar has stood as a beacon of Islamic learning; and for over a century, Cairo University has been a source of Egypt&#8217;s advancement.  And together, you represent the harmony between tradition and progress.  I&#8217;m grateful for your hospitality, and the hospitality of the people of Egypt.  And I&#8217;m also proud to carry with me the goodwill of the American people, and a greeting of peace from Muslim communities in my country:  Assalaamu alaykum. (Applause.)</p>
<p>We meet at a time of great tension between the United States and Muslims around the world &#8212; tension rooted in historical forces that go beyond any current policy debate.  The relationship between Islam and the West includes centuries of coexistence and cooperation, but also conflict and religious wars.  More recently, tension has been fed by colonialism that denied rights and opportunities to many Muslims, and a Cold War in which Muslim-majority countries were too often treated as proxies without regard to their own aspirations.  Moreover, the sweeping change brought by modernity and globalization led many Muslims to view the West as hostile to the traditions of Islam.</p>
<p>Violent extremists have exploited these tensions in a small but potent minority of Muslims.  The attacks of September 11, 2001 and the continued efforts of these extremists to engage in violence against civilians has led some in my country to view Islam as inevitably hostile not only to America and Western countries, but also to human rights.  All this has bred more fear and more mistrust.</p>
<p>So long as our relationship is defined by our differences, we will empower those who sow hatred rather than peace, those who promote conflict rather than the cooperation that can help all of our people achieve justice and prosperity.  And this cycle of suspicion and discord must end.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve come here to Cairo to seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world, one based on mutual interest and mutual respect, and one based upon the truth that America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition.  Instead, they overlap, and share common principles &#8212; principles of justice and progress; tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.</p>
<p>I do so recognizing that change cannot happen overnight.  I know there&#8217;s been a lot of publicity about this speech, but no single speech can eradicate years of mistrust, nor can I answer in the time that I have this afternoon all the complex questions that brought us to this point.  But I am convinced that in order to move forward, we must say openly to each other the things we hold in our hearts and that too often are said only behind closed doors.  There must be a sustained effort to listen to each other; to learn from each other; to respect one another; and to seek common ground.  As the Holy Koran tells us, &#8220;Be conscious of God and speak always the truth.&#8221;  (Applause.)  That is what I will try to do today &#8212; to speak the truth as best I can, humbled by the task before us, and firm in my belief that the interests we share as human beings are far more powerful than the forces that drive us apart.</p>
<p>Now part of this conviction is rooted in my own experience. I&#8217;m a Christian, but my father came from a Kenyan family that includes generations of Muslims.  As a boy, I spent several years in Indonesia and heard the call of the azaan at the break of dawn and at the fall of dusk.  As a young man, I worked in Chicago communities where many found dignity and peace in their Muslim faith.</p>
<p>As a student of history, I also know civilization&#8217;s debt to Islam.  It was Islam &#8212; at places like Al-Azhar &#8212; that carried the light of learning through so many centuries, paving the way for Europe&#8217;s Renaissance and Enlightenment.  It was innovation in Muslim communities &#8212; (applause) &#8212; it was innovation in Muslim communities that developed the order of algebra; our magnetic compass and tools of navigation; our mastery of pens and printing; our understanding of how disease spreads and how it can be healed.  Islamic culture has given us majestic arches and soaring spires; timeless poetry and cherished music; elegant calligraphy and places of peaceful contemplation.  And throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.  (Applause.)</p>
<p>I also know that Islam has always been a part of America&#8217;s story.  The first nation to recognize my country was Morocco.  In signing the Treaty of Tripoli in 1796, our second President, John Adams, wrote, &#8220;The United States has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Muslims.&#8221;  And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States.  They have fought in our wars, they have served in our government, they have stood for civil rights, they have started businesses, they have taught at our universities, they&#8217;ve excelled in our sports arenas, they&#8217;ve won Nobel Prizes, built our tallest building, and lit the Olympic Torch.  And when the first Muslim American was recently elected to Congress, he took the oath to defend our Constitution using the same Holy Koran that one of our Founding Fathers &#8212; Thomas Jefferson &#8212; kept in his personal library.  (Applause.)</p>
<p>So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed.  That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn&#8217;t.  And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear. (Applause.)</p>
<p>But that same principle must apply to Muslim perceptions of America.  (Applause.)  Just as Muslims do not fit a crude stereotype, America is not the crude stereotype of a self-interested empire.  The United States has been one of the greatest sources of progress that the world has ever known.  We were born out of revolution against an empire.  We were founded upon the ideal that all are created equal, and we have shed blood and struggled for centuries to give meaning to those words &#8212; within our borders, and around the world.  We are shaped by every culture, drawn from every end of the Earth, and dedicated to a simple concept:  E pluribus unum &#8212; &#8220;Out of many, one.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, much has been made of the fact that an African American with the name Barack Hussein Obama could be elected President.  (Applause.)  But my personal story is not so unique.  The dream of opportunity for all people has not come true for everyone in America, but its promise exists for all who come to our shores &#8212; and that includes nearly 7 million American Muslims in our country today who, by the way, enjoy incomes and educational levels that are higher than the American average.  (Applause.)</p>
<p>Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice one&#8217;s religion.  That is why there is a mosque in every state in our union, and over 1,200 mosques within our borders.  That&#8217;s why the United States government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab and to punish those who would deny it.  (Applause.)</p>
<p>So let there be no doubt:  Islam is a part of America.  And I believe that America holds within her the truth that regardless of race, religion, or station in life, all of us share common aspirations &#8212; to live in peace and security; to get an education and to work with dignity; to love our families, our communities, and our God.  These things we share.  This is the hope of all humanity.</p>
<p>Of course, recognizing our common humanity is only the beginning of our task.  Words alone cannot meet the needs of our people.  These needs will be met only if we act boldly in the years ahead; and if we understand that the challenges we face are shared, and our failure to meet them will hurt us all.</p>
<p>For we have learned from recent experience that when a financial system weakens in one country, prosperity is hurt everywhere.  When a new flu infects one human being, all are at risk.  When one nation pursues a nuclear weapon, the risk of nuclear attack rises for all nations.  When violent extremists operate in one stretch of mountains, people are endangered across an ocean.  When innocents in Bosnia and Darfur are slaughtered, that is a stain on our collective conscience.  (Applause.)  That is what it means to share this world in the 21st century.  That is the responsibility we have to one another as human beings.</p>
<p>And this is a difficult responsibility to embrace.  For human history has often been a record of nations and tribes &#8212; and, yes, religions &#8212; subjugating one another in pursuit of their own interests.  Yet in this new age, such attitudes are self-defeating.  Given our interdependence, any world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will inevitably fail.  So whatever we think of the past, we must not be prisoners to it.  Our problems must be dealt with through partnership; our progress must be shared.  (Applause.)</p>
<p>Now, that does not mean we should ignore sources of tension. Indeed, it suggests the opposite:  We must face these tensions squarely.  And so in that spirit, let me speak as clearly and as plainly as I can about some specific issues that I believe we must finally confront together.</p>
<p>The first issue that we have to confront is violent extremism in all of its forms.</p>
<p>In Ankara, I made clear that America is not &#8212; and never will be &#8212; at war with Islam.  (Applause.)  We will, however, relentlessly confront violent extremists who pose a grave threat to our security &#8212; because we reject the same thing that people of all faiths reject:  the killing of innocent men, women, and children.  And it is my first duty as President to protect the American people.</p>
<p>The situation in Afghanistan demonstrates America&#8217;s goals, and our need to work together.  Over seven years ago, the United States pursued al Qaeda and the Taliban with broad international support.  We did not go by choice; we went because of necessity. I&#8217;m aware that there&#8217;s still some who would question or even justify the events of 9/11.  But let us be clear:  Al Qaeda killed nearly 3,000 people on that day.  The victims were innocent men, women and children from America and many other nations who had done nothing to harm anybody.  And yet al Qaeda chose to ruthlessly murder these people, claimed credit for the attack, and even now states their determination to kill on a massive scale.  They have affiliates in many countries and are trying to expand their reach.  These are not opinions to be debated; these are facts to be dealt with.</p>
<p>Now, make no mistake:  We do not want to keep our troops in Afghanistan.  We see no military &#8212; we seek no military bases there.  It is agonizing for America to lose our young men and women.  It is costly and politically difficult to continue this conflict.  We would gladly bring every single one of our troops home if we could be confident that there were not violent extremists in Afghanistan and now Pakistan determined to kill as many Americans as they possibly can.  But that is not yet the case.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why we&#8217;re partnering with a coalition of 46 countries.  And despite the costs involved, America&#8217;s commitment will not weaken.  Indeed, none of us should tolerate these extremists.  They have killed in many countries.  They have killed people of different faiths &#8212; but more than any other, they have killed Muslims.  Their actions are irreconcilable with the rights of human beings, the progress of nations, and with Islam.  The Holy Koran teaches that whoever kills an innocent is as &#8212; it is as if he has killed all mankind.  (Applause.)  And the Holy Koran also says whoever saves a person, it is as if he has saved all mankind.  (Applause.)  The enduring faith of over a billion people is so much bigger than the narrow hatred of a few. Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism &#8212; it is an important part of promoting peace.</p>
<p>Now, we also know that military power alone is not going to solve the problems in Afghanistan and Pakistan.  That&#8217;s why we plan to invest $1.5 billion each year over the next five years to partner with Pakistanis to build schools and hospitals, roads and businesses, and hundreds of millions to help those who&#8217;ve been displaced.  That&#8217;s why we are providing more than $2.8 billion to help Afghans develop their economy and deliver services that people depend on.</p>
<p>Let me also address the issue of Iraq.  Unlike Afghanistan, Iraq was a war of choice that provoked strong differences in my country and around the world.  Although I believe that the Iraqi people are ultimately better off without the tyranny of Saddam Hussein, I also believe that events in Iraq have reminded America of the need to use diplomacy and build international consensus to resolve our problems whenever possible.  (Applause.)  Indeed, we can recall the words of Thomas Jefferson, who said:  &#8220;I hope that our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us that the less we use our power the greater it will be.&#8221;</p>
<p>Today, America has a dual responsibility:  to help Iraq forge a better future &#8212; and to leave Iraq to Iraqis.  And I have made it clear to the Iraqi people &#8212; (applause) &#8212; I have made it clear to the Iraqi people that we pursue no bases, and no claim on their territory or resources.  Iraq&#8217;s sovereignty is its own. And that&#8217;s why I ordered the removal of our combat brigades by next August.  That is why we will honor our agreement with Iraq&#8217;s democratically elected government to remove combat troops from Iraqi cities by July, and to remove all of our troops from Iraq by 2012.  (Applause.)  We will help Iraq train its security forces and develop its economy.  But we will support a secure and united Iraq as a partner, and never as a patron.</p>
<p>And finally, just as America can never tolerate violence by extremists, we must never alter or forget our principles.  Nine-eleven was an enormous trauma to our country.  The fear and anger that it provoked was understandable, but in some cases, it led us to act contrary to our traditions and our ideals.  We are taking concrete actions to change course.  I have unequivocally prohibited the use of torture by the United States, and I have ordered the prison at Guantanamo Bay closed by early next year.  (Applause.)</p>
<p>So America will defend itself, respectful of the sovereignty of nations and the rule of law.  And we will do so in partnership with Muslim communities which are also threatened.  The sooner the extremists are isolated and unwelcome in Muslim communities, the sooner we will all be safer.</p>
<p>The second major source of tension that we need to discuss is the situation between Israelis, Palestinians and the Arab world.</p>
<p>America&#8217;s strong bonds with Israel are well known.  This bond is unbreakable.  It is based upon cultural and historical ties, and the recognition that the aspiration for a Jewish homeland is rooted in a tragic history that cannot be denied.</p>
<p>Around the world, the Jewish people were persecuted for centuries, and anti-Semitism in Europe culminated in an unprecedented Holocaust.  Tomorrow, I will visit Buchenwald, which was part of a network of camps where Jews were enslaved, tortured, shot and gassed to death by the Third Reich.  Six million Jews were killed &#8212; more than the entire Jewish population of Israel today.  Denying that fact is baseless, it is ignorant, and it is hateful.  Threatening Israel with destruction &#8212; or repeating vile stereotypes about Jews &#8212; is deeply wrong, and only serves to evoke in the minds of Israelis this most painful of memories while preventing the peace that the people of this region deserve.</p>
<p>On the other hand, it is also undeniable that the Palestinian people &#8212; Muslims and Christians &#8212; have suffered in pursuit of a homeland.  For more than 60 years they&#8217;ve endured the pain of dislocation.  Many wait in refugee camps in the West Bank, Gaza, and neighboring lands for a life of peace and security that they have never been able to lead.  They endure the daily humiliations &#8212; large and small &#8212; that come with occupation.  So let there be no doubt:  The situation for the Palestinian people is intolerable.  And America will not turn our backs on the legitimate Palestinian aspiration for dignity, opportunity, and a state of their own.  (Applause.)</p>
<p>For decades then, there has been a stalemate:  two peoples with legitimate aspirations, each with a painful history that makes compromise elusive.  It&#8217;s easy to point fingers &#8212; for Palestinians to point to the displacement brought about by Israel&#8217;s founding, and for Israelis to point to the constant hostility and attacks throughout its history from within its borders as well as beyond.  But if we see this conflict only from one side or the other, then we will be blind to the truth:  The only resolution is for the aspirations of both sides to be met through two states, where Israelis and Palestinians each live in peace and security.  (Applause.)</p>
<p>That is in Israel&#8217;s interest, Palestine&#8217;s interest, America&#8217;s interest, and the world&#8217;s interest.  And that is why I intend to personally pursue this outcome with all the patience and dedication that the task requires.  (Applause.)  The obligations &#8212; the obligations that the parties have agreed to under the road map are clear.  For peace to come, it is time for them &#8212; and all of us &#8212; to live up to our responsibilities.</p>
<p>Palestinians must abandon violence.  Resistance through violence and killing is wrong and it does not succeed.  For centuries, black people in America suffered the lash of the whip as slaves and the humiliation of segregation.  But it was not violence that won full and equal rights.  It was a peaceful and determined insistence upon the ideals at the center of America&#8217;s founding.  This same story can be told by people from South Africa to South Asia; from Eastern Europe to Indonesia.  It&#8217;s a story with a simple truth:  that violence is a dead end.  It is a sign neither of courage nor power to shoot rockets at sleeping children, or to blow up old women on a bus.  That&#8217;s not how moral authority is claimed; that&#8217;s how it is surrendered.</p>
<p>Now is the time for Palestinians to focus on what they can build.  The Palestinian Authority must develop its capacity to govern, with institutions that serve the needs of its people. Hamas does have support among some Palestinians, but they also have to recognize they have responsibilities.  To play a role in fulfilling Palestinian aspirations, to unify the Palestinian people, Hamas must put an end to violence, recognize past agreements, recognize Israel&#8217;s right to exist.</p>
<p>At the same time, Israelis must acknowledge that just as Israel&#8217;s right to exist cannot be denied, neither can Palestine&#8217;s.  The United States does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements.  (Applause.)  This construction violates previous agreements and undermines efforts to achieve peace.  It is time for these settlements to stop.  (Applause.)</p>
<p>And Israel must also live up to its obligation to ensure that Palestinians can live and work and develop their society.  Just as it devastates Palestinian families, the continuing humanitarian crisis in Gaza does not serve Israel&#8217;s security; neither does the continuing lack of opportunity in the West Bank. Progress in the daily lives of the Palestinian people must be a critical part of a road to peace, and Israel must take concrete steps to enable such progress.</p>
<p>And finally, the Arab states must recognize that the Arab Peace Initiative was an important beginning, but not the end of their responsibilities.  The Arab-Israeli conflict should no longer be used to distract the people of Arab nations from other problems.  Instead, it must be a cause for action to help the Palestinian people develop the institutions that will sustain their state, to recognize Israel&#8217;s legitimacy, and to choose progress over a self-defeating focus on the past.</p>
<p>America will align our policies with those who pursue peace, and we will say in public what we say in private to Israelis and Palestinians and Arabs.  (Applause.)  We cannot impose peace.  But privately, many Muslims recognize that Israel will not go away.  Likewise, many Israelis recognize the need for a Palestinian state.  It is time for us to act on what everyone knows to be true.</p>
<p>Too many tears have been shed.  Too much blood has been shed.  All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra &#8212; (applause) &#8212; as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer.  (Applause.)</p>
<p>The third source of tension is our shared interest in the rights and responsibilities of nations on nuclear weapons.</p>
<p>This issue has been a source of tension between the United States and the Islamic Republic of Iran.  For many years, Iran has defined itself in part by its opposition to my country, and there is in fact a tumultuous history between us.  In the middle of the Cold War, the United States played a role in the overthrow of a democratically elected Iranian government.  Since the Islamic Revolution, Iran has played a role in acts of hostage-taking and violence against U.S. troops and civilians.  This history is well known.  Rather than remain trapped in the past, I&#8217;ve made it clear to Iran&#8217;s leaders and people that my country is prepared to move forward.  The question now is not what Iran is against, but rather what future it wants to build.</p>
<p>I recognize it will be hard to overcome decades of mistrust, but we will proceed with courage, rectitude, and resolve.  There will be many issues to discuss between our two countries, and we are willing to move forward without preconditions on the basis of mutual respect.  But it is clear to all concerned that when it comes to nuclear weapons, we have reached a decisive point.  This is not simply about America&#8217;s interests.  It&#8217;s about preventing a nuclear arms race in the Middle East that could lead this region and the world down a hugely dangerous path.</p>
<p>I understand those who protest that some countries have weapons that others do not.  No single nation should pick and choose which nation holds nuclear weapons.  And that&#8217;s why I strongly reaffirmed America&#8217;s commitment to seek a world in which no nations hold nuclear weapons.  (Applause.)  And any nation &#8212; including Iran &#8212; should have the right to access peaceful nuclear power if it complies with its responsibilities under the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.  That commitment is at the core of the treaty, and it must be kept for all who fully abide by it. And I&#8217;m hopeful that all countries in the region can share in this goal.</p>
<p>The fourth issue that I will address is democracy.  (Applause.)</p>
<p>I know &#8212; I know there has been controversy about the promotion of democracy in recent years, and much of this controversy is connected to the war in Iraq.  So let me be clear: No system of government can or should be imposed by one nation by any other.</p>
<p>That does not lessen my commitment, however, to governments that reflect the will of the people.  Each nation gives life to this principle in its own way, grounded in the traditions of its own people.  America does not presume to know what is best for everyone, just as we would not presume to pick the outcome of a peaceful election.  But I do have an unyielding belief that all people yearn for certain things:  the ability to speak your mind and have a say in how you are governed; confidence in the rule of law and the equal administration of justice; government that is transparent and doesn&#8217;t steal from the people; the freedom to live as you choose.  These are not just American ideas; they are human rights.  And that is why we will support them everywhere.  (Applause.)</p>
<p>Now, there is no straight line to realize this promise.  But this much is clear:  Governments that protect these rights are ultimately more stable, successful and secure.  Suppressing ideas never succeeds in making them go away.  America respects the right of all peaceful and law-abiding voices to be heard around the world, even if we disagree with them.  And we will welcome all elected, peaceful governments &#8212; provided they govern with respect for all their people.</p>
<p>This last point is important because there are some who advocate for democracy only when they&#8217;re out of power; once in power, they are ruthless in suppressing the rights of others.  (Applause.)  So no matter where it takes hold, government of the people and by the people sets a single standard for all who would hold power:  You must maintain your power through consent, not coercion; you must respect the rights of minorities, and participate with a spirit of tolerance and compromise; you must place the interests of your people and the legitimate workings of the political process above your party.  Without these ingredients, elections alone do not make true democracy.</p>
<p>AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Barack Obama, we love you!</p>
<p>PRESIDENT OBAMA:  Thank you.  (Applause.)  The fifth issue that we must address together is religious freedom.</p>
<p>Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.  We see it in the history of Andalusia and Cordoba during the Inquisition.  I saw it firsthand as a child in Indonesia, where devout Christians worshiped freely in an overwhelmingly Muslim country.  That is the spirit we need today.  People in every country should be free to choose and live their faith based upon the persuasion of the mind and the heart and the soul.  This tolerance is essential for religion to thrive, but it&#8217;s being challenged in many different ways.</p>
<p>Among some Muslims, there&#8217;s a disturbing tendency to measure one&#8217;s own faith by the rejection of somebody else&#8217;s faith.  The richness of religious diversity must be upheld &#8212; whether it is for Maronites in Lebanon or the Copts in Egypt.  (Applause.)  And if we are being honest, fault lines must be closed among Muslims, as well, as the divisions between Sunni and Shia have led to tragic violence, particularly in Iraq.</p>
<p>Freedom of religion is central to the ability of peoples to live together.  We must always examine the ways in which we protect it.  For instance, in the United States, rules on charitable giving have made it harder for Muslims to fulfill their religious obligation.  That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m committed to working with American Muslims to ensure that they can fulfill zakat.</p>
<p>Likewise, it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit &#8212; for instance, by dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear.  We can&#8217;t disguise hostility towards any religion behind the pretence of liberalism.</p>
<p>In fact, faith should bring us together.  And that&#8217;s why we&#8217;re forging service projects in America to bring together Christians, Muslims, and Jews.  That&#8217;s why we welcome efforts like Saudi Arabian King Abdullah&#8217;s interfaith dialogue and Turkey&#8217;s leadership in the Alliance of Civilizations.  Around the world, we can turn dialogue into interfaith service, so bridges between peoples lead to action &#8212; whether it is combating malaria in Africa, or providing relief after a natural disaster.</p>
<p>The sixth issue &#8212; the sixth issue that I want to address is women&#8217;s rights.  (Applause.)  I know –- I know &#8212; and you can tell from this audience, that there is a healthy debate about this issue.  I reject the view of some in the West that a woman who chooses to cover her hair is somehow less equal, but I do believe that a woman who is denied an education is denied equality.  (Applause.)  And it is no coincidence that countries where women are well educated are far more likely to be prosperous.</p>
<p>Now, let me be clear:  Issues of women&#8217;s equality are by no means simply an issue for Islam.  In Turkey, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, we&#8217;ve seen Muslim-majority countries elect a woman to lead.  Meanwhile, the struggle for women&#8217;s equality continues in many aspects of American life, and in countries around the world.</p>
<p>I am convinced that our daughters can contribute just as much to society as our sons.  (Applause.)  Our common prosperity will be advanced by allowing all humanity &#8212; men and women &#8212; to reach their full potential.  I do not believe that women must make the same choices as men in order to be equal, and I respect those women who choose to live their lives in traditional roles. But it should be their choice.  And that is why the United States will partner with any Muslim-majority country to support expanded literacy for girls, and to help young women pursue employment through micro-financing that helps people live their dreams.  (Applause.)</p>
<p>Finally, I want to discuss economic development and opportunity.</p>
<p>I know that for many, the face of globalization is contradictory.  The Internet and television can bring knowledge and information, but also offensive sexuality and mindless violence into the home.  Trade can bring new wealth and opportunities, but also huge disruptions and change in communities.  In all nations &#8212; including America &#8212; this change can bring fear.  Fear that because of modernity we lose control over our economic choices, our politics, and most importantly our identities &#8212; those things we most cherish about our communities, our families, our traditions, and our faith.</p>
<p>But I also know that human progress cannot be denied.  There need not be contradictions between development and tradition. Countries like Japan and South Korea grew their economies enormously while maintaining distinct cultures.  The same is true for the astonishing progress within Muslim-majority countries from Kuala Lumpur to Dubai.  In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.<br />
And this is important because no development strategy can be based only upon what comes out of the ground, nor can it be sustained while young people are out of work.  Many Gulf states have enjoyed great wealth as a consequence of oil, and some are beginning to focus it on broader development.  But all of us must recognize that education and innovation will be the currency of the 21st century &#8212; (applause) &#8212; and in too many Muslim communities, there remains underinvestment in these areas.  I&#8217;m emphasizing such investment within my own country.  And while America in the past has focused on oil and gas when it comes to this part of the world, we now seek a broader engagement.</p>
<p>On education, we will expand exchange programs, and increase scholarships, like the one that brought my father to America.  (Applause.)  At the same time, we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities.  And we will match promising Muslim students with internships in America; invest in online learning for teachers and children around the world; and create a new online network, so a young person in Kansas can communicate instantly with a young person in Cairo.</p>
<p>On economic development, we will create a new corps of business volunteers to partner with counterparts in Muslim-majority countries.  And I will host a Summit on Entrepreneurship this year to identify how we can deepen ties between business leaders, foundations and social entrepreneurs in the United States and Muslim communities around the world.</p>
<p>On science and technology, we will launch a new fund to support technological development in Muslim-majority countries, and to help transfer ideas to the marketplace so they can create more jobs.  We&#8217;ll open centers of scientific excellence in Africa, the Middle East and Southeast Asia, and appoint new science envoys to collaborate on programs that develop new sources of energy, create green jobs, digitize records, clean water, grow new crops.  Today I&#8217;m announcing a new global effort with the Organization of the Islamic Conference to eradicate polio.  And we will also expand partnerships with Muslim communities to promote child and maternal health.</p>
<p>All these things must be done in partnership.  Americans are ready to join with citizens and governments; community organizations, religious leaders, and businesses in Muslim communities around the world to help our people pursue a better life.</p>
<p>The issues that I have described will not be easy to address.  But we have a responsibility to join together on behalf of the world that we seek &#8212; a world where extremists no longer threaten our people, and American troops have come home; a world where Israelis and Palestinians are each secure in a state of their own, and nuclear energy is used for peaceful purposes; a world where governments serve their citizens, and the rights of all God&#8217;s children are respected.  Those are mutual interests.  That is the world we seek.  But we can only achieve it together.</p>
<p>I know there are many &#8212; Muslim and non-Muslim &#8212; who question whether we can forge this new beginning.  Some are eager to stoke the flames of division, and to stand in the way of progress.  Some suggest that it isn&#8217;t worth the effort &#8212; that we are fated to disagree, and civilizations are doomed to clash. Many more are simply skeptical that real change can occur.  There&#8217;s so much fear, so much mistrust that has built up over the years.  But if we choose to be bound by the past, we will never move forward.  And I want to particularly say this to young people of every faith, in every country &#8212; you, more than anyone, have the ability to reimagine the world, to remake this world.</p>
<p>All of us share this world for but a brief moment in time. The question is whether we spend that time focused on what pushes us apart, or whether we commit ourselves to an effort &#8212; a sustained effort &#8212; to find common ground, to focus on the future we seek for our children, and to respect the dignity of all human beings.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easier to start wars than to end them.  It&#8217;s easier to blame others than to look inward.  It&#8217;s easier to see what is different about someone than to find the things we share.  But we should choose the right path, not just the easy path.  There&#8217;s one rule that lies at the heart of every religion &#8212; that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us.  (Applause.)  This truth transcends nations and peoples &#8212; a belief that isn&#8217;t new; that isn&#8217;t black or white or brown; that isn&#8217;t Christian or Muslim or Jew.  It&#8217;s a belief that pulsed in the cradle of civilization, and that still beats in the hearts of billions around the world.  It&#8217;s a faith in other people, and it&#8217;s what brought me here today.</p>
<p>We have the power to make the world we seek, but only if we have the courage to make a new beginning, keeping in mind what has been written.</p>
<p>The Holy Koran tells us:  &#8220;O mankind!  We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Talmud tells us:  &#8220;The whole of the Torah is for the purpose of promoting peace.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Holy Bible tells us:  &#8220;Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.&#8221;  (Applause.)</p>
<p>The people of the world can live together in peace.  We know that is God&#8217;s vision.  Now that must be our work here on Earth.</p>
<p>Thank you.  And may God&#8217;s peace be upon you.  Thank you very much.  Thank you.  (Applause.)</p>
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		<title>Gay protest gets ugly</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For anyone who was thinking of joining the November 15 demonstrations for gay marriage, here&#8217;s a troubling report from Lansing, Michigan. Last weekend a church was attacked on Sunday morning during a service by a group claiming to be gay. In the photo you can see they have pink scarves over their faces and are [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=camelsnose.wordpress.com&blog=515705&post=2172&subd=camelsnose&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>For anyone who was thinking of joining the November 15 demonstrations for gay marriage, <a href="http://www.redstate.com/diaries/rightmichigancom/2008/nov/10/michigan-liberals-attack-lansing-congregation/" target="_blank">here</a>&#8217;s a troubling report from Lansing, Michigan. Last weekend a church was attacked on Sunday morning during a service by a group claiming to be gay. In the photo you can see they have pink scarves over their faces and are carrying bats and sticks.</p>
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<p>This is not the type of political blog I usually read, but this piece at least seems to be a straightforward narrative account.  Some of the comments are interesting too:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">&#8220;The only civil rights being violated were those of the church members. They have the first amendment right to practice their religion. The queer activists from Michigan were not harmed by Proposition 8 in California. They were simply engaging in a conspiracy to deny civil rights to Christians in Michigan. RICO anyone? Besides which, Proposition 8 was a clear case of &#8220;petitioning the government for redress of grievances&#8221; while the queer activist harassment did not engage the government at all, only innocent Christians.&#8221;</p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;">&#8220;When will they attack mosques that call for the death of gays? tick tock tick tock&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p><span class="comment-author-name"> <a title="hunter's profile" href="http://www.redstate.com/users/hunter/"></a></span></div>
<p>If anyone is interested in following this story further, Daily Kos printed <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/11/21615/737" target="_blank">some excerpts</a> from local blogs. Even more interesting, and not in a good way, is a poll attached to the piece, 37% of their readership supports the protests. I am reminded of how the Weather Underground discredited and delegitimized the peace movement back in the 60&#8217;s and set back the end of the Vietnam war by who knows how much.</p>
<p>A sensible comment by BlueJeanDem is encouraging:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><a class="de"> </a><span class="cu">This is disgusting</span> <span class="crd ntb">(6+ / 0-)</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">As a gay man I condemn this sort of action.</p>
<div class="ct" style="padding-left:30px;">
<p>It is counter-productive and only makes things worse for the cause of gay equality. How many more gay-haters will be created by this incident? Probably quite a few.</p>
<p>That church is the private property of the congregants. It is also their spiritual home. Regardless of what you think about their politics or doctrines, this was morally and ethically wrong and just plain stupid.</p>
<p>Besides, something tells me those protesters were probably not even gay. Anarchists and hoodlums doing NO GOOD.</p>
<p>Our fight for equality is through law and the courts, not by increasing physical conflict between the two factions.</p>
<p>Some of those people at the Church were no doubt friends and family of gays who are on our side on the gay issue. They were there to worship in peace. And now they might be having second thoughts.</p>
<p>Good going, creeps.</p>
<p>Nobody&#8217;s coming into my home to protest my being gay.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s how it should be. These jerks violated that rule of social behavior.</p></div>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">&#8220;It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.&#8221; Upton Sinclair via Al Gore</p>
<p>I had thought about writing more about the gay protests coming up this weekend and maybe evening reading up on <a href="http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/pwh/index-am.html" target="_blank">the history</a> a little.  Who were Mattachine, Stonewall, ACT UP, and Queer Nation?</p>
<p>But now I&#8217;m really not that interested anymore.  Sure, I belong to a church that openly invites people of every persuasion, even if the question of gay marriage is still being debated within the denomination. And I still support civil rights for everyone. But who are these people? They don&#8217;t seem to respect the civil rights of others, even as they demand it for themselves.  And what DO they want?  Some say they don&#8217;t really want marriage or are undecided, or they only want civil unions that will give them inheritance and medical insurance benefits.  They are just marching because they&#8217;re upset about Prop 8 and not because they are sure they want marriage instead of civil unions.</p>
<p>Then there was the matter last week of the <a href="http://camelsnose.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/lynching-sarah-palin-not-intense-its-only-a-white-woman/" target="_blank">gay couple in California</a> who put an effigy of Sarah Palin with a noose outside their home as a sort of cutesy Halloween decoration. It was the mayor, not the gay community, who convinced them to take it down.</p>
<p>Throughout history, women have supported everyone else&#8217;s freedom, from opposing slavery to gay rights. But when it comes down to supporting women&#8217;s civil rights, where are the people whose rights the women marched for?</p>
<p>My time and energy are limited.  I won&#8217;t be writing about this issue again.  It is not my issue.  For anyone else who plans to demonstrate, I can only say &#8220;know who you are with,&#8221; and recommend PumaPAC&#8217;s  <a href="http://pumapac.org/forums/proposition-hate/#comment-236322" target="_blank">Proposition Hate forum</a> for the latest information.  The Pumas I don&#8217;t agree with 100%, but they do support gay rights issues.  <em>Join the Impact</em> has moved their site around and the old links don&#8217;t work but they have comprehensive of the protests; <a href="http://jointheimpact.com/" target="_blank">here</a> is their home page. You might also want to read <a href="http://queersunited.blogspot.com/2008/11/listing-of-prop-8-protests-and-rallies.html" target="_blank">this</a> apparently unmoderated list of demonstrations, if only for the freaky &#8220;we need to get angry&#8221; comments.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;">~~~~~~~~~~~~~</p>
<p>Update: photo&#8211;the same group at a Milwaukee demonstration. Unpixilized image <a href="http://camelsnose.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/gay-parade-milwaukee-bash-back1.png" target="_blank">here</a> (NSFW). Yup, &#8220;kill&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>What&#8217;s funny about a bailout?</title>
		<link>http://camelsnose.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/whats-funny-about-a-bailout/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 05:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nijma</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finding something to smile about during the financial crisis:

This one via
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/i-am-voting-dem.html
With all the turmoil in the market today and the collapse of Lehman Bros and  acquisition of Merrill Lynch by Bank of America, this might be some good  advice.  For all of you with any money left, be aware of the next expected [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=camelsnose.wordpress.com&blog=515705&post=1824&subd=camelsnose&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Finding something to smile about during the financial crisis:<br />
<a href="http://camelsnose.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/bailout-cartoon.gif"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1825" title="bailout-cartoon" src="http://camelsnose.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/bailout-cartoon.gif?w=500" alt="" width="500" /></a></p>
<p>This one via</p>
<p>http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/i-am-voting-dem.html</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">With all the turmoil in the market today and the collapse of Lehman Bros and  acquisition of Merrill Lynch by Bank of America, this might be some good  advice.  For all of you with any money left, be aware of the next expected  mergers so that you can get in on the ground floor and make some BIG bucks.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Watch for these consolidations later this year:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">1. Hale Business Systems, Mary Kay Cosmetics, Fuller Brush, and W. R.  Grace Co. will merge and become:  Hale, Mary, Fuller, Grace.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">2. Polygram Records, Warner Bros., and Zesta Crackers join forces and  become: Poly, Warner Cracker.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">3. 3M will merge with Goodyear and become:  MMMGood.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">4. Zippo Manufacturing, Audi Motors, Dofasco, and Dakota Mining will  merge and become: ZipAudiDoDa.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">5. FedEx is expected to join its competitor, UPS, and become: FedUP.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">6. Fairchild Electronics and Honeywell Computers will become: Fairwell  Honeychild.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">7. Grey Poupon and Docker Pants are expected to become: PouponPants.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">8. Knotts Berry Farm and the National Organization of Women will become:  Knott NOW!</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">And finally, &#8230;</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">9. Victoria&#8217;s Secret and Smith &amp; Wesson will merge under the  new name:  TittyTittyBangBang.</p>
<p>UPDATE: With the passage of the bailout a few minutes ago, and an immediate 200 point drop in the stock market, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAtmzjbCZOA" target="_blank">here is Red State Update&#8217;s</a> humourous take.</p>
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		<title>Drill baby drill?&#8212;what is wrong with this picture</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 06:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did enyone else get a queasy feeling when everyone at the Republican convention started chanting &#8220;drill, baby, drill&#8221;?  It was a little bit like seeing some one yell &#8220;Let&#8217;s party&#8221; with car keys in hand.
Tonight the other shoe dropped when I heard Terry Gross interview Tom Friedman.  Usually I don&#8217;t have time to listen to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=camelsnose.wordpress.com&blog=515705&post=1661&subd=camelsnose&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Did enyone else get a queasy feeling when everyone at the Republican convention started chanting &#8220;drill, baby, drill&#8221;?  It was a little bit like seeing some one yell &#8220;Let&#8217;s party&#8221; with car keys in hand.</p>
<p>Tonight the other shoe dropped when I heard Terry Gross interview Tom Friedman.  Usually I don&#8217;t have time to listen to stuff, but if you have not yet heard this interview, <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94385403" target="_blank">go over to NPR and listen to it</a>.<br />
Sure, Friedman is selling his new book and yes, he&#8217;s vastly overrated, and yes, I cringe whenever Charlie Rose, who I otherwise admire, starts acting like he&#8217;s the Messiah. But Tom Friedman does give a good interview, he is energized by what ever he talks about, and this interview was about oil prices.</p>
<p>Some of Friedman&#8217;s points:</p>
<ul>
<li>Oil prices in the 80&#8217;s dropped from $80 a barrel to $10 a barrel as a result of car mileage legislation, which worked so well it was dropped.</li>
<li>The Soviet Union, a big oil producer, collapsed as a result of the change in oil price.</li>
<li>Iran is in the same position today as the Soviet Union was then, and would collapse if the price of oil collapsed.</li>
<li>Legislation giving tax advantages for developing wind and solar applications is expiring.  Companies that made use of those tax breaks to make advances in alternative energy sources are now taking their discoveries to Europe where there are still tax breaks and a market for the products.</li>
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		<title>Is our food safe yet?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is just WRONG.



First they thought it was the tomatoes.
Then after months and months of seeing letters about Salmonella in tomatoes posted in supermarkets and fast food chains, they decided it wasn&#8217;t the tomatoes after all.  But not before the tomato industry was destroyed for the season.  Now they say it was the jalapeno peppers.  [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=camelsnose.wordpress.com&blog=515705&post=1627&subd=camelsnose&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>This is just WRONG.</p>
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<p>First they thought it was the tomatoes.</p>
<p>Then after months and months of seeing letters about Salmonella in tomatoes posted in supermarkets and fast food chains, <a href="http://www.fda.gov/oc/opacom/hottopics/tomatoes.html" target="_blank">they decided</a> it wasn&#8217;t the tomatoes after all.  But not before the tomato industry was destroyed for the season.  Now they say it was the jalapeno peppers.  Really?  No matter, I have both tomatoes and jalapenos in the garden.</p>
<p>It used to be that America had safe food and safe water.  That&#8217;s what made us different from other countries.  Anyone who has ever gotten a dose of Montezuma&#8217;s revenge while enjoying Mexico&#8217;s beaches, or a touch of fever after eating the wild boar in Kathmandu can appreciate America&#8217;s tradition of eating food without having to take antibiotics afterwards. But all that has changed now.</p>
<p>Where is the government that used to protect our food?</p>
<p>Oh, yeah, that&#8217;s right. The Department of Health and Human Services&#8217; Secretary Mike Leavitt is <a href="http://camelsnose.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/bush-department-of-health-and-human-services-tries-to-re-write-contraception-laws/" target="_blank">busy these days</a> trying to get contraception redefined as abortion.</p>
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		<title>Is your neighborhood walkable? Ratings for 40 cities</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Walkscore.com has a tool that rates neighborhoods in 40 different cities and tells you how walkable the neighborhood is.
Back in the 60&#8217;s, population was shifting to the suburbs.  Everyone wanted a slice of the American dream.  A piece of land. A yard.  Safe streets and good schools. The result was acres and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=camelsnose.wordpress.com&blog=515705&post=1279&subd=camelsnose&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Walkscore.com has <a href="http://www.walkscore.com/">a tool that rates neighborhoods</a> in 40 different cities and tells you how walkable the neighborhood is.</p>
<p>Back in the 60&#8217;s, population was shifting to the suburbs.  Everyone wanted a slice of the American dream.  A piece of land. A yard.  Safe streets and good schools. The result was acres and acres of urban sprawl.  I myself grew up in one of these new areas and I can&#8217;t even begin to describe how safe and how good and how utterly boring they were.</p>
<p>Researchers have <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25890997/" target="_blank">just begun to document the negative effects</a> of this type of housing development. Bedroom communities require cars to get back and forth, adding to a larger carbon footprint and increased gasoline expenses.  Social cohesion is lost.  People stop walking and are measurably heavier, as health risks associated with obesity increase.</p>
<p>While many urban planning students would rather sell their soul to the devil than listen to a developer, this tool is fairly interesting.  Maybe there <em>are </em>a few real estate marketers who do have a soul, or at least know how to talk about the values that come into play when people choose a neighborhood.</p>
<p>They came pretty close with my neighborhood, rating it 45 out of 100, and my old campus neighborhood just west of the Loop an 86. Of course I didn&#8217;t choose to live here because it was walkable, I chose it for being cheap place for student digs and for having an interesting main street with a Polish bakery, now sold, and a colorful local corner coffeeshop, now burned down.  Also there was an absence of gang signs in the neighborhood. That has changed too. Within a one block radius of where I live, there are probably more than a dozen gang signs on the garages and stop signs, including one on the back of the carriage house on the property where I live.</p>
<p>My move to this neighborhood was part of a 3 year plan, now going on seven years.  Maybe it&#8217;s time to take this website and figure out where I want to live next.</p>
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		<title>What the latest FISA amendment would do</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the senate scheduled to consider the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 tomorrow, here is an overview of what the bill would do.

First of all, the bill is not a replacement for the FISA courts. The first part of the bill covers surveillance of those who are NOT U.S. Citizens, whether they are in the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=camelsnose.wordpress.com&blog=515705&post=1005&subd=camelsnose&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>With the senate scheduled to consider the <a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-6304" target="_blank">FISA Amendments Act of 2008</a> tomorrow, here is an overview of what the bill would do.</p>
<ul>
<li>First of all, the bill is not a replacement for the FISA courts. The first part of the bill covers surveillance of those who are NOT U.S. Citizens, whether they are in the U.S. or abroad. American citizens, wherever they are, are not supposed to be targeted under the fist part of this law, but later parts cover targeting Americans abroad.</li>
<li>The bill contains a lot of weasel language about accidentally wiretapping U.S. citizens, with much use of words like &#8220;intentionally target&#8221; and &#8220;reasonably believe&#8221;.</li>
<li>The Attorney General and the Director of National Intelligence have to submit a certification saying they did or will try to apply to the FISA court for approval for the surveillance within 7 days of the date of the certificate. They can move the date of the certificate around later, depending on when the surveillance begins. They are supposed to pay the telecoms for their services. They are supposed to make their requests to the telecoms in writing.  They don&#8217;t have to say where the wiretapping will take place. They are supposed to keep a copy of the certification notice to the FISA court. The FISA court has 30 days to review the certification and determine whether it is proper and legal.</li>
<li>Telecoms cannot be sued in court for going along with this.</li>
<li>The government can require security measures from telecoms.</li>
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<ul>
<li>If a telecom does NOT want to go along with this, they will be in very deep doo doo and spend a lot of money on lawyers. The &#8220;electronic communication service provider&#8221;&#8211;the telecom asked to wiretap&#8211;can request of the FISA court not to do the wiretapping. The FISA court has to assign to petition to a judge within 24 hours&#8211;24 hours!&#8211;and review the petition within 5 days. If the judge finds the government request to be improper or illegal they can tell the telecom they don&#8217;t have to do it. Otherwise they can order the telecom to comply. They have to do this in writing. Then if the telecom still doesn&#8217;t want to carry out the wiretapping, they can be sued for contempt of court. If the telecom does not agree they can take it to the Supreme Court &#8220;under seal&#8221;, whatever that is, probably some sort of secrecy.</li>
<li>If the court does not agree with the government that a wiretap is proper, the government can either alter their surveillance to comply with the court, stop the surveillance, or appeal to the FISA court of review. The FISA review court has 60 days to make a decision; in the meantime the government can continue to wiretap. It is not clear what happens if the government &#8220;corrects the deficiency&#8221;&#8211;does the new government procedure then go back to FISA for another review and reset the 60-day clock?</li>
<li>Time limits for court decisions can be extended if it&#8217;s in the interest of security.</li>
<li>FISA will keep their proceedings secure.</li>
<li>Reauthorizations should be renewed at least 30 days before they expire. (current projects are said to be expiring in August&#8211; is this the rush to pass FISA amendments bill now?)</li>
<li>Every six months the Attorney General and Director of National Intelligence will submit a report to the FISA court and to congressional intelligence and judiciary committees. The report will consist of a review of how well they have managed not to wiretap Americans and how many citizens ( a U.S. citizen in this bill is referred to as &#8220;a United States-person identity&#8221;) have actually been wiretapped, also something called  &#8220;minimization procedures&#8221;.</li>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;">‘(e) Minimization Procedures-</p>
<ul style="padding-left:30px;">‘(1) REQUIREMENT TO ADOPT- The Attorney General, in consultation with the Director of National Intelligence, shall adopt minimization procedures that meet the definition of minimization procedures under section 101(h) or 301(4), as appropriate, for acquisitions authorized under subsection (a).</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">‘(2) JUDICIAL REVIEW- The minimization procedures adopted in accordance with paragraph (1) shall be subject to judicial review pursuant to subsection (i).</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Apparently is has something to do with how the &#8220;acquisitions&#8221; or recordings are handled.  Wouldn&#8217;t it be really funny if this was just Newspeak for a zip file on a thumb drive?</p>
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<li>The Inspectors General of the Justice Department, and any intelligence agencies authorized to conduct wiretapping, are authorized to review how many American citizens were actually wiretapped and also the mysterious &#8220;minimization procedures&#8221;.  The review can be presented to the heads of the intelligence agencies, the head of the Justice department and congressional intelligence and justice oversight committees. The heads of the intelligence entities (aren&#8217;t they agencies anymore?) will write an annual review, which goes to the AG, FISA,  the head of Justice, and the congressional justice and intelligence oversight committees.</li>
<li>But, wait a minute, this isn&#8217;t just about wiretapping.  In section 703 c 4 we find out that an order approving  &#8220;ACQUISITIONS INSIDE THE UNITED STATES TARGETING UNITED STATES PERSONS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES&#8221; has to specify &#8220;the nature of the information sought to be acquired and the type of communications<em> or activities</em> to be subjected to acquisition&#8221;.  What is an &#8220;activity&#8221; and how do you acquire it? The FISA court approval document also has to specify &#8220;a summary of the means by which the acquisition will be conducted and whether <em>physical entry</em> is required to effect the acquisition&#8221;. Physical entry?  We&#8217;re not talking about planting bugs in telephones here, are we. And they have to specify the &#8220;means&#8221;?  So this isn&#8217;t just about wiretapping. It could cover just about any object that could be searched for&#8211;emails, computers, papers, even what&#8217;s in someone&#8217;s medicine cabinet&#8211;and inside anything&#8211;homes, cars, offices.</li>
<li>Domestic spying (not just wiretapping it seems) approvals are good for 90 days and can have more 90 day extensions after a FISA judge reviews the circumstances of what has already been done.</li>
<li>Up until this point, this bill does not authorize targeting American citizens, but now Section 704 specifically details the requirements for spying on a U. S. citizen abroad. An American citizen can be spied on if there is a certification filed with FISA or the Attorney General authorizes the spying as an emergency. The identity of the American citizedn does not have to be known. The spying is supposed to stop if the person is known to enter the U.S., but can resume again after they leave.  In this type of spying, the FISA judge who reviews the case may review how the information was used, but not how it was collected.</li>
<li>The Attorney General can authorize an emergency spying on an American abroad, but has to notify the FISA judge at that time, and file a certification within 7 days. The authorization is good until the certification is obtained or the desired information is obtained.</li>
<li>Information obtained without a certification cannot be used in court, or disclosed, unless there is a threat of harm to someone.</li>
<li>Civil lawsuits against telecoms are prohibited as long as they have a written authorization&#8211;and there is quite a lengthy description here of what documentation is okay to prove authorization&#8211;after 9/11 for the wiretap.</li>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:center;"><strong>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</strong></p>
<p>Comments and ruminations:</p>
<p>The bill starts out benign and slowly gets scary.  After all, who would disagree with a wiretap targeting someone in another country who was not American, especially if they were planning another 9/11?  Then we get to wiretapping non-citizens who are in the U.S.&#8211;still sort of a gray area, but not that objectionable. Do foreigners have rights?  Well, we stuck a toe in the water and didn&#8217;t get frostbite, so maybe it&#8217;s a reasonable bill after all.</p>
<p>Then we read about all the reporting required everytime there is a wiretap. Reports in triplicate to Justice, FISA, and bipartisan intelligence committees in both houses of congress. Good idea, oversight, accountability. That&#8217;s what an Inspector General is for. Prevent waste, fraud, abuse. In some agencies they&#8217;re even independent of the agency&#8217;s director, which is handy if you want to scrutinize the agency and keep your job at the same time. The Republicans and Democrats will be tripping over each other to make sure it isn&#8217;t used as a political tool that can be used against them .</p>
<p>Much has been made of the Attorney General&#8217;s ability to make emergency declarations in order to spy without a certification, but it looks like the AG can only do that with Americans abroad and has to make a declaration to the FISA first and follow it up by applying for a certification.</p>
<p>The fourth amendment says no search and seizure without a warrant, but here warrants have been replaced by certifications.  What &#8217;s the difference?  Not having to specify the person searched for or the specific place to be searched.  I suppose that&#8217;s necessary when dealing with the internet and all those anonymous hackers on steroids.  It&#8217;s been mentioned elsewhere that warrants can be subpoenaed. Can certifications? But a certification has to be listed in all kinds of reports to the executive and legislative branches.</p>
<p>Information obtained by spying on Americans abroad before a certification is obtained cannot be used in court&#8211;this is nasty.  The American Way is to sue.  We don&#8217;t war on each other because it&#8217;s so much more fun to throw our lawyers at each other. The right of Americans to sue and be sued cannot be impinged upon.  Also it would be really nice to try some terrorists and put them in jail instead of having all these foreign covert actions. It&#8217;s killing our reputation abroad.  I bet if the world found out how much nasty fun lawyers can be, war would disappear forever. Plus if there was some legally admissible evidence, we could think about how to lock up some terrorists legally.</p>
<p>Who is restricted from bringing lawsuits?  Not the telecoms.  The telecoms can take the FISA appeal court ruling to the Supreme Court. Not the government. The government can take any objections of the telecoms to the Supreme Court. What about any citizens who get spied on?   Looks like they might be able to sue the government but not the telecoms. If they find out.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><strong>~~~~~~~~~</strong></p>
<p>More ruminations</p>
<p>In some ways this a very pragmatic bill, similar to legalizing prostitution or buying and selling pollution credits. Try this analogy. Little Gerogie has been caught with his hand in the cookie jar before dinner time and now has no appetite for the bill of rights.  He doesn&#8217;t eat the cookies himself, he just gives them to his friends because he doesn&#8217;t have a clue what to do about 9/11 and he thinks if they have the cookies they will be distracted and will think he&#8217; s doing something.</p>
<p>Mommy and Daddy are quite busy working double shifts to pay for everything. For instance they&#8217;re ten million short for the Denver convention, and they just don&#8217;t have the time and energy to do FISA, er cookies  right. Besides, once Georgie is off to boarding school, he and his playmates won&#8217;t have the opportunity for cookies anymore. And the twins. Little Barack and Hillary both want to go to college, but they can only send one, so Mommy and Daddy are busy with that mess too. So instead of sending Georgie off to cookie boot camp, they want to stop little Georgie from putting his hand in the cookie jar in the first place until they can get him out of the house and have time to deal with it.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s what they come up with. They exchange the cookies for muffins.  Harder to get out of the jar without being noticed. Then they say it&#8217;s okay to eat as many muffins as possible before mealtime as long as you put a little check mark on the little chart next to the muffin jar.  Of course you will have to explain later what you did with all those muffins and count them and so forth, but for now just take the muffins and let someone know you took them.</p>
<p>And if you&#8217;re out of the house and need a muffin really quick, here&#8217;s a dime for mad money, just have the attorney general call an emergency and you get more muffins as long as you keep putting a check in the box next to the jar.</p>
<p>Of course, now that it&#8217;s okay to eat before meals, we don&#8217;t want to know about all the friends you gave those cookies to before&#8211;I mean, that&#8217;s all legal now, so why get upset over something that was not okay before but is okay now.</p>
<p>Hope you don&#8217;t mind all the cholesterol&#8211;don&#8217;t get any arterial plaque or stroke out or anything, now, y&#8217;hear?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about all those times Obama voted &#8220;present&#8221; on abortion legislation when he was a state legislator?  Although the local NOW chapter has called him to task for the votes, his supporters would have you believe he was in favor of a woman&#8217;s right to choose.  Always the mantra to former Hillary supporters [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=camelsnose.wordpress.com&blog=515705&post=989&subd=camelsnose&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>What about all those times Obama voted &#8220;present&#8221; on abortion legislation when he was a state legislator?  Although the local NOW chapter has called him to task for the votes, his supporters would have you believe he was in favor of a woman&#8217;s right to choose.  Always the mantra to former Hillary supporters who talked about breaking away from the democratic party was &#8220;McCain will overturn Roe v Wade, but Obama won&#8217;t&#8221;.</p>
<p>Those who had hoped Obama would be a genuine alternative to either Bush or McCain have already been disappointed several times this week.  First there was Obama&#8217;s reversal  on FISA and retroactive immunity for telecom companies. Then Obama appeared to be running for Bush&#8217;s third term when he announced new faith-based initiatives&#8211;tax money to support churches&#8217; social programs.</p>
<p>Now <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/legalities/2008/07/obama-revisits.html" target="_blank">Obama is reversing himself on abortion</a>, taking the position of the most conservative justices on the court, Scalia and Thomas, that a woman&#8217;s emotional wellbeing cannot be considered in allowing abortions after 22 weeks.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Speaking to reporters on his campaign plane, Obama said mental health exceptions—which are a real battleground issue in the abortion debate&#8211;can be &#8220;rigorously&#8221; limited to only those women with &#8220;serious clinical mental health diseases.&#8221; He said mental health exceptions are not intended permit abortions when a woman simply &#8220;doesn&#8217;t feel good.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">&#8220;It is not just a matter of feeling blue,&#8221; Obama said.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Here&#8217;s the problem with that, and why Obama&#8217;s remarks are so startling.  Obama is trying to restrict abortions after 22 weeks to those women who have a serious disease or illness. But the law today also covers some women who are in &#8220;mental distress,&#8221; those women who would suffer emotional and psychological harm without an abortion.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">This standard has long been understood to require less than &#8220;serious clinical mental health disease.&#8221;  Women today don&#8217;t have to show they are suffering from a &#8220;serious clinical mental health disease&#8221; or &#8220;mental illness&#8221; before getting an abortion post-viability, as Obama now says is appropriate.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">And for 35 years—since Roe v. Wade—they&#8217;ve never had to show that.</p>
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